October+1,+2007

[2007/10/01 16:07] You: OK. so just wanted to focus on communhications to start [2007/10/01 16:07] You: Until the students can coordinate, we have nothing [2007/10/01 16:08] Alex Asylum: Absolutely. I think my students are beginning to find their way to the wiki site. [2007/10/01 16:08] DoctorPartridge Allen: i'm hopelessly behind on team formation - can anyone (Des) explain how team assignments are to be made? [2007/10/01 16:09] Eloise Pasteur: Essentially we're just splitting bodies as evenly as possibly across 24 teams [2007/10/01 16:09] You: my students were instructed to communicate through the wiki, but as of now have done a poor job [2007/10/01 16:09] Korprof Tomorrow is Online [2007/10/01 16:10] DoctorPartridge Allen: so should i just assign my students one to each team as available? [2007/10/01 16:10] You: we need to create a new column for your students on the team page and then u can input their avatar names [2007/10/01 16:10] Eloise Pasteur: Are we going to also encourage things like yahoo groups, exchanging gmail or similar emails to all group members? [2007/10/01 16:11] Korprof Tomorrow: hi everyone, sorry I'm late [2007/10/01 16:11] DoctorPartridge Allen: hey korp [2007/10/01 16:11] You: no prob. please read [2007/10/01 16:11] Daliah Carter: hello [2007/10/01 16:11] DoctorPartridge Allen: so should i make the column tomorrow and add? [2007/10/01 16:12] You: Sure. by all means. its everyones wiki [2007/10/01 16:12] DoctorPartridge Allen: k [2007/10/01 16:12] DoctorPartridge Allen: will do [2007/10/01 16:12] You: I hope evryone adds [2007/10/01 16:12] Tab Scott is Online [2007/10/01 16:12] You: THe WUE students group can be used by everyone for communications but for smaller groups... [2007/10/01 16:13] You: I thought the wiki team page is good but what does everyone think? [2007/10/01 16:13] Desideria Stockton: also, tyou will see that i am linking bios of my students [2007/10/01 16:13] Desideria Stockton: they will podcast theswe as well [2007/10/01 16:13] You: saw that. cool [2007/10/01 16:13] Korprof Tomorrow: I like the wiki team page...seems a good way of centralizing communication [2007/10/01 16:13] DoctorPartridge Allen: yes [2007/10/01 16:14] Alex Asylum: I agree with the wiki approach. [2007/10/01 16:14] DoctorPartridge Allen: i'm going to teach my kids to use it tomorrow [2007/10/01 16:14] DoctorPartridge Allen: good approach [2007/10/01 16:14] You: For now, we must all teach our students HOW to communicate properly [2007/10/01 16:14] Marcius Dowding is Online [2007/10/01 16:14] You: obviously they dont know [2007/10/01 16:14] You: at least mine dont] [2007/10/01 16:15] Alex Asylum: I'd say that would be one of the main objectives of this enterprise [2007/10/01 16:15] pecot Laval: u mean through the wiki [2007/10/01 16:15] You: yes [2007/10/01 16:15] You: I think they need to check the wiki as often they check their e-mail [2007/10/01 16:15] Desideria Stockton: we're a little bit worried about some of the american students because we are not sure that they will be able to follow through with their groups. [2007/10/01 16:16] You: I think we all have slackers in our classes and this will be a challenge [2007/10/01 16:16] You: I think we must try to take con trol of this situation quickly [2007/10/01 16:17] You: perhaps move team members around if necessary to provide some kind of exchange [2007/10/01 16:18] Alex Asylum: maybe we could set up some WUE Social hours or something and ask our students to come to at least one of those times [2007/10/01 16:18] Marcius Dowding is Offline [2007/10/01 16:18] DoctorPartridge Allen: i like the idea of social hours [2007/10/01 16:18] Alex Asylum: at least one of us could be at each hour and hopefully the students would run into at least one other person from their group [2007/10/01 16:18] You: that would be cool [2007/10/01 16:18] Desideria Stockton: that's a really good idea. [2007/10/01 16:19] DoctorPartridge Allen: y [2007/10/01 16:19] You: BUT for now there is virtually now communications going on...Perhaps just start a set social hour and see if that helps for now. prob small at first [2007/10/01 16:20] Alex Asylum: so what do you think maybe do one or two hours a day over three or four days? starting Wed? [2007/10/01 16:21] DoctorPartridge Allen: should stagger them to make times line up with various time zones [2007/10/01 16:21] You: We can try any day really. I recommend starting on Sat though so we have time to tell all students [2007/10/01 16:21] You: thats right [2007/10/01 16:22] Eloise Pasteur: Saturday's also good because the students are likely to be able to come at more unusal hours [2007/10/01 16:22] You: WE have to get as many students possible understand that the class does not end when the bell rings but that is when it actuallt STARTS for the exch [2007/10/01 16:22] DoctorPartridge Allen: perhaps to get the ball rolling we could do wed and sat [2007/10/01 16:22] Deed Davids is Offline [2007/10/01 16:23] DoctorPartridge Allen: i know not all will know - but i suspect that we'll have accomplished little by next mon if we wait until sat [2007/10/01 16:23] You: we can try [2007/10/01 16:23] Desideria Stockton: WE HAVE A tui IS GOING TO DONATE A BOX OF SUPPLIES FOR EACH PLOT OF LAND AND IT WILL HAVE INSTRUCTIONS [2007/10/01 16:23] Korprof Tomorrow: free supplies...that sounds good [2007/10/01 16:24] Eloise Pasteur: The alternative would be lots of social hours, say every 7 hours or so, over Saturday and Sunday [2007/10/01 16:24] You: maybe up to 5 of my students could figure it out [2007/10/01 16:24] Alex Asylum: I could do Wed @ 5PM Thur @ 12pm and 5pm (SL time) for an hour each [2007/10/01 16:24] Desideria Stockton: to build it and all the scripts that are needed to go with it [2007/10/01 16:24] Eloise Pasteur: it gives us time to warn everyone, and a fair number of chances to get to at least one [2007/10/01 16:24] You: HOw about each teacher set up a social hour they will lead [2007/10/01 16:25] Desideria Stockton: we're going to put it in their plots, and set it right in the middle [2007/10/01 16:25] DoctorPartridge Allen: y - but we should get times now so we can share them with all students [2007/10/01 16:25] Alex Asylum: That sounds good, we should create a social hour wikipage [2007/10/01 16:25] You: OK [2007/10/01 16:25] Korprof Tomorrow: then it is essential that the architecture students be available [2007/10/01 16:25] Desideria Stockton: it's a Survivor type of idea, with learning the strengths and weaknesses of the members of the groups. [2007/10/01 16:26] You: Ill set up a social page on the wiki and all teachers can post their social hours. WE can all check the wiki and inmform our students appropriately [2007/10/01 16:27] DoctorPartridge Allen: I can do Thursday @ 6AM SL time [2007/10/01 16:27] DoctorPartridge Allen: k [2007/10/01 16:27] Alex Asylum: With any luck will figure out times that most of our students want to show up and try and get the others come then as well [2007/10/01 16:27] Korprof Tomorrow: I like the idea of gifts for participating [2007/10/01 16:28] Desideria Stockton: i think that it's a very good idea. [2007/10/01 16:28] You: yes [2007/10/01 16:28] Alex Asylum: Maybe we can put up gifts or rewards for challenges or just participating... I know we discussed this last time. I can put up $2500L a week. [2007/10/01 16:29] You: wow cash! [2007/10/01 16:29] You: hey I`ll go for cash [2007/10/01 16:29] Alex Asylum: yeah I've got a little money to pilot this. [2007/10/01 16:30] You: great. i think some kind of non-cash gifts would be great for now. FOr larger accomplishments perhaps bigger prizes [2007/10/01 16:31] DoctorPartridge Allen: i can make some things - gifts [2007/10/01 16:31] Alex Asylum: what do you have in mind? [2007/10/01 16:31] You: awesome [2007/10/01 16:31] Desideria Stockton: elo, pecot would like to have the sidewalks changed... he would like his students be able to change the sidewalks and walls in present and film. [2007/10/01 16:31] DoctorPartridge Allen: t-shirts, gadgets, that sort of thing [2007/10/01 16:31] Alex Asylum: cool [2007/10/01 16:31] You: great [2007/10/01 16:31] Daliah Carter: welcome to some of my inventory [2007/10/01 16:32] DoctorPartridge Allen: assuming dalia doesnt' steal them from me of course. [2007/10/01 16:32] DoctorPartridge Allen: ;) [2007/10/01 16:32] DoctorPartridge Allen: long story [2007/10/01 16:32] Daliah Carter: hehe [2007/10/01 16:32] Eloise Pasteur: Um, I think they'll have to give me the textures and I'll change them, but I'll check [2007/10/01 16:32] Eloise Pasteur: I might be able to share with group and have anyone change them [2007/10/01 16:32] Desideria Stockton: ok [2007/10/01 16:32] You: OK. perhaps a little bit every week. A theme or something for gifts [2007/10/01 16:33] You: If they get everything every time they wont be motivatred [2007/10/01 16:33] DoctorPartridge Allen: sure - i have a staff of five working in world - so just let me know what to make if it is special [2007/10/01 16:33] DoctorPartridge Allen: we'll make the basics [2007/10/01 16:33] Korprof Tomorrow: should we request that the teams participate with a minimum quorum? [2007/10/01 16:34] DoctorPartridge Allen: good idea [2007/10/01 16:34] DoctorPartridge Allen: peer pressure [2007/10/01 16:34] DoctorPartridge Allen: ;) [2007/10/01 16:34] Korprof Tomorrow: right...might encourage participation [2007/10/01 16:34] Alex Asylum: how large do we think the groups will be? [2007/10/01 16:34] You: 5-8people [2007/10/01 16:35] Eloise Pasteur: How do we enforce and measure minimum participation? [2007/10/01 16:35] DoctorPartridge Allen: % [2007/10/01 16:35] DoctorPartridge Allen: 50% [2007/10/01 16:35] Eloise Pasteur: That's not an answer [2007/10/01 16:35] Eloise Pasteur: how do we make sure 50% engage and participate? [2007/10/01 16:35] Desideria Stockton: my students grade is attached to participation, so if they don't participate, they flunk the class. [2007/10/01 16:35] Korprof Tomorrow: how do we measure participation? [2007/10/01 16:35] DoctorPartridge Allen: we have written an attendance script [2007/10/01 16:36] DoctorPartridge Allen: students check in as i recall [2007/10/01 16:36] Korprof Tomorrow: how is it accessed [2007/10/01 16:36] DoctorPartridge Allen: doesn't force participation to be activve [2007/10/01 16:36] Desideria Stockton: and my students are graded on their writing, they have to keep a journal on everything they do [2007/10/01 16:36] DoctorPartridge Allen: students click to enter- i can alter to have it autosense avatars if needed [2007/10/01 16:36] Desideria Stockton: they have wiki spaces that i link over, but they also have a private journal. [2007/10/01 16:36] Desideria Stockton: elmo, we hear you. [2007/10/01 16:37] Desideria Stockton: so my students have grades that are tied to participation. but i can't grade their use of second life. i can't use the technology to grade them because not all are familiar with the technology [2007/10/01 16:37] Alex Asylum: out of curiousity have you given your students a sense of how much time each week you expect them to spend in SL on this project? [2007/10/01 16:38] You: No specific time amoiunt [2007/10/01 16:38] You: I really need to change their mindset when I see them on Fri in class. [2007/10/01 16:38] You: They just dont know what a continuos exch means [2007/10/01 16:39] You: they seem to think writing something on the wiki the day before class starts is ok [2007/10/01 16:39] Alex Asylum: I think you are right in suggesting that what can change that is developing relationships here [2007/10/01 16:40] You: we need to properly instruct the students. I think this is very new to them [2007/10/01 16:40] You: All our other plans for exch will fall through if we dont change their mindset [2007/10/01 16:40] Daliah Carter: What about using counters to keep track [2007/10/01 16:41] Daliah Carter: How often they log in [2007/10/01 16:41] You: For now I monitor the entire wiki with the RSS feeds so I see how little is actually happening [2007/10/01 16:41] You: Unless they start there, they have no way to connect in SL [2007/10/01 16:42] DoctorPartridge Allen: but once they exchange email etc. they should be able to work largely outside the wiki? [2007/10/01 16:43] You: Their team page needs to become their center though. So there is a constant flow of info when they are not in SL [2007/10/01 16:43] You: VEry strong asynchronous channel is essential at least for the first weeks, prob throughout [2007/10/01 16:43] DoctorPartridge Allen: so they should be in habit of logging updates on team page every time they log out of sl [2007/10/01 16:44] You: that would help, especially for those that couldnt come [2007/10/01 16:44] You: Imagine if we all met in SL. Could we coordinate everything? [2007/10/01 16:44] You: only [2007/10/01 16:44] You: The wiki has been essential for us [2007/10/01 16:44] Korprof Tomorrow: maybe we should have the architecture students post times when they could meet the other team members [2007/10/01 16:44] You: If that d [2007/10/01 16:44] You: YEs [2007/10/01 16:45] You: Really, everyone should post time [2007/10/01 16:45] You: I was shocked that my students couldnt even figure that out [2007/10/01 16:45] You: they just wrote a "hello" message [2007/10/01 16:45] You: if that [2007/10/01 16:45] DoctorPartridge Allen: we should post a prototype [2007/10/01 16:45] pecot Laval is Offline [2007/10/01 16:45] You: good idea [2007/10/01 16:45] DoctorPartridge Allen: an example of group meta organization [2007/10/01 16:46] DoctorPartridge Allen: a typical group posts the following; [2007/10/01 16:46] DoctorPartridge Allen: a history [2007/10/01 16:46] pecot Laval is Online [2007/10/01 16:46] DoctorPartridge Allen: contacts [2007/10/01 16:46] DoctorPartridge Allen: times available in world [2007/10/01 16:46] DoctorPartridge Allen: they should have reg. office hours or contact hours [2007/10/01 16:46] You: YEs. Even for us it is a bit of challenge at times [2007/10/01 16:46] DoctorPartridge Allen: ;) [2007/10/01 16:46] Alex Asylum: how many hours should we ask them to provide for availability? [2007/10/01 16:46] DoctorPartridge Allen: if they have a prototype they'll follow it [2007/10/01 16:46] You: y [2007/10/01 16:47] Eloise Pasteur: We should also get them to organise their own get togethers, team meets that we don't need to be at [2007/10/01 16:47] You: yes [2007/10/01 16:47] DoctorPartridge Allen: include 'next meeting is at _________' in the prototype [2007/10/01 16:47] DoctorPartridge Allen: teach them to send reminders to each group member [2007/10/01 16:48] Alex Asylum: We should ask each member to post X number of hours they *could* meet with the idea that they will set up at least what 1-2 hours when they *will* meet? [2007/10/01 16:48] Desideria Stockton: that is an excellent idea [2007/10/01 16:48] You: yes. WE gave the students the communication tools but they dont know how to use it yet [2007/10/01 16:48] You: or the importance of using them [2007/10/01 16:48] You: all the time [2007/10/01 16:48] Daliah Carter: The more they use it the more they learn [2007/10/01 16:49] Larry Pixel is Online [2007/10/01 16:50] You: So I think for this coming week: An explanation to the students that this is a continuous exch and that the real learning takes place outside of class [2007/10/01 16:50] You: we will provide some kind of communication format for them to follow [2007/10/01 16:51] Alex Asylum: that sounds good. [2007/10/01 16:51] You: and kick their lazy butts if they dont take action [2007/10/01 16:51] You: well that might be a bit extreme [2007/10/01 16:51] Alex Asylum: nah [2007/10/01 16:51] Alex Asylum: should we hold the social hours here? [2007/10/01 16:52] You: sure. but I need some decorating help [2007/10/01 16:52] You: Elo? [2007/10/01 16:52] Eloise Pasteur: Yes? [2007/10/01 16:52] You: anyone good at creating a relaxed atmosphere? [2007/10/01 16:53] You: for socials [2007/10/01 16:53] Eloise Pasteur: When's the first social hour? [2007/10/01 16:53] You: well its 9am here Am Im drinking so I guess now :) [2007/10/01 16:53] Eloise Pasteur: I'll put out comfy chairs, try to stream some nice music if I can find a stream [2007/10/01 16:53] You: Just kidding [2007/10/01 16:53] Desideria Stockton: i think that would be a good idea Elo. [2007/10/01 16:54] You: umm. who`s first? [2007/10/01 16:54] Eloise Pasteur: Are we going for Wednesday? [2007/10/01 16:54] Alex Asylum: I'd run one about this time on Wed or Thur if we can get ready by then [2007/10/01 16:54] Eloise Pasteur: or the weekend? [2007/10/01 16:54] Eloise Pasteur: Ok, anyone before 4pm SLT Wed? [2007/10/01 16:54] Korprof Tomorrow: what about using the space created at finger lakes for the social [2007/10/01 16:54] Desideria Stockton: Elo, Nev and Dal have to get together and talk about this. [2007/10/01 16:55] Eloise Pasteur: Is there already a social space there? [2007/10/01 16:55] Korprof Tomorrow: yes, there's a large building put up for us to use [2007/10/01 16:55] Eloise Pasteur: I won't take long to build something here [2007/10/01 16:55] Eloise Pasteur: but if there's something elsewhere, that's even easier [2007/10/01 16:56] You: Hmm. I think a persistent social space sounds good [2007/10/01 16:56] You: how about the other place [2007/10/01 16:56] Eloise Pasteur: Sounds good to me [2007/10/01 16:56] You: So the students always have a hang out [2007/10/01 16:56] Desideria Stockton: elo, the architecture students would like to be involved with the building. [2007/10/01 16:57] You: GREAT! [2007/10/01 16:57] Desideria Stockton: i'm not sure in SL which students are which [2007/10/01 16:57] Desideria Stockton: i wish tehre were a way to find out who is whom. maybe elo can give tags to the students [2007/10/01 16:57] Desideria Stockton: *there [2007/10/01 16:57] Eloise Pasteur: If we're using an existing building at Finger Lakes that might be tricky. If we're going to find somewhere else I have no problem with that [2007/10/01 16:58] Desideria Stockton: i'll have to create some note cards so she can IM them all at one time. [2007/10/01 16:58] You: How about rethink the space from scratch [2007/10/01 16:58] Eloise Pasteur: which school is the architects? [2007/10/01 16:58] You: can we take down the buildings? [2007/10/01 16:58] Eloise Pasteur: I don't know [2007/10/01 16:58] You: IS that OK w Marcius? [2007/10/01 16:58] Desideria Stockton: i probably have space [2007/10/01 16:58] You: ok [2007/10/01 16:59] Desideria Stockton: quebec canada is one of the architects. [2007/10/01 16:59] You: It would also be interesting if it was a dynamic space in which the students could add photos and such [2007/10/01 16:59] You: make the social space their own [2007/10/01 17:00] Desideria Stockton: i probably have space that i can allicate that the students can use and build from scratch. [2007/10/01 17:00] DoctorPartridge Allen: i added the group prototype page to the wiki [2007/10/01 17:00] Korprof Tomorrow: so have we decided on a social time? [2007/10/01 17:00] Desideria Stockton: toulse architects are also the others. [2007/10/01 17:00] DoctorPartridge Allen: feel free to alter [2007/10/01 17:01] Alex Asylum: I will do the first one I guess at 4pm SL time on Wed. Then we can create a Social Hour page on the wiki and others can add times [2007/10/01 17:01] Eloise Pasteur: I'm not seeing those names on the wiki? [2007/10/01 17:02] Korprof Tomorrow: 4pm SL is 8am in Korea, so I"m not sure how many of my students will be available [2007/10/01 17:02] Eloise Pasteur: Well we aim to have a mix of times [2007/10/01 17:02] Korprof Tomorrow: but I'll give them the option of coming [2007/10/01 17:02] You: Ill do one Sat night JApan time [2007/10/01 17:03] Eloise Pasteur: and remembering and reminding everyone of that is important [2007/10/01 17:03] You: lets say 10pm [2007/10/01 17:03] You: so 6am SL [2007/10/01 17:03] Korprof Tomorrow: did we decide to have a social page on the wiki [2007/10/01 17:03] You: yes. ill do that now [2007/10/01 17:04] DoctorPartridge Allen: already doing it elmo [2007/10/01 17:04] Alex Asylum: Yes 9am Sat morning will be as popular here as 8am wed there. Eventually though I think we'll figure out times that work. [2007/10/01 17:04] DoctorPartridge Allen: starting the calendar [2007/10/01 17:04] Korprof Tomorrow: aren't time zones fun...I came here yesterday because I got confused about when we were meeting [2007/10/01 17:04] Eloise Pasteur: We don't need everyone at every social mind. We'll get some from everywhere [2007/10/01 17:05] Eloise Pasteur: lol [2007/10/01 17:05] Eloise Pasteur: I'm project managing a different job atm [2007/10/01 17:05] Eloise Pasteur: across 7 time zones, from GMT+11 to GMT-8 [2007/10/01 17:06] You: OK, the link to the Social PAge is on the home page [2007/10/01 17:06] Alex Asylum: great. I'll be sure that my students know about it tomorrow. [2007/10/01 17:06] Eloise Pasteur: Who's EAUL? [2007/10/01 17:07] Desideria Stockton: i'll also make sure my students know about this as well [2007/10/01 17:07] Eloise Pasteur: There seem to be students spread across two groups [2007/10/01 17:07] You: thats the architecture studenbts [2007/10/01 17:07] You: yes [2007/10/01 17:07] Eloise Pasteur: in that column, all the way down [2007/10/01 17:07] Eloise Pasteur: ok [2007/10/01 17:07] You: yes, they will help 2 groups build [2007/10/01 17:07] pecot Laval: Ecole d'Architecture Universite Laval = EAUL [2007/10/01 17:07] pecot Laval: ok Eloise? [2007/10/01 17:07] Eloise Pasteur: Ah, that's your lot pecot? [2007/10/01 17:08] pecot Laval: yes [2007/10/01 17:08] Eloise Pasteur: Yes, no problem, just wondered [2007/10/01 17:08] You: Pe-could you fill in the 2 blank teams With students so 2 students will actually need to cover 3 teams? [2007/10/01 17:08] Desideria Stockton: she has her overrider. [2007/10/01 17:08] You: WE should really have architecture students in each group [2007/10/01 17:09] pecot Laval: Ok I ll do that [2007/10/01 17:09] You: thx [2007/10/01 17:10] You: Any other points for today? [2007/10/01 17:10] Tilla Kronos shouts: I love everyone! [2007/10/01 17:10] Tilla Kronos shouts: And let me hear some noise! [2007/10/01 17:11] Korprof Tomorrow: Elmo, i don't see the link for the social page [2007/10/01 17:11] DoctorPartridge Allen: des have you got a few min after the meeting [2007/10/01 17:11] DoctorPartridge Allen: It s on the main page [2007/10/01 17:11] DoctorPartridge Allen: not in nave [2007/10/01 17:11] You: At the top [2007/10/01 17:11] DoctorPartridge Allen: navigation [2007/10/01 17:11] You: very top of front page [2007/10/01 17:12] Korprof Tomorrow: ok...got it [2007/10/01 17:12] You: still needs to be formatted but its there [2007/10/01 17:12] Eloise Pasteur: Pecot parlez-vous votre étuidant Francais ou Anglais? [2007/10/01 17:12] Korprof Tomorrow: I think the social times might be good ways of getting the student acclimated to actually meeting in SL [2007/10/01 17:12] Eloise Pasteur: étudiants* [2007/10/01 17:12] You: lets try [2007/10/01 17:12] pecot Laval: Français [2007/10/01 17:13] pecot Laval: why [2007/10/01 17:13] Eloise Pasteur: Ah, bien [2007/10/01 17:13] Eloise Pasteur: lol, just curious [2007/10/01 17:13] Larry Pixel is Offline [2007/10/01 17:13] Eloise Pasteur: Plus, although not that fluent, I can get by in French which might help [2007/10/01 17:13] pecot Laval: u wnt to practice ur French [2007/10/01 17:13] pecot Laval: :O) [2007/10/01 17:13] Eloise Pasteur: lol, no [2007/10/01 17:13] pecot Laval: yes [2007/10/01 17:14] pecot Laval: u should [2007/10/01 17:14] Eloise Pasteur: I practise it enough, but it might help if they can practise their English and know they can fall back into French [2007/10/01 17:14] Korprof Tomorrow: interesting...I can't see pecot's responses, but I can Eloise's [2007/10/01 17:14] Eloise Pasteur: I speak Parisian French, not Quebecois [2007/10/01 17:14] pecot Laval: yes u r right.. [2007/10/01 17:14] DoctorPartridge Allen: he's too far away from you [2007/10/01 17:15] Eloise Pasteur: Hmm, he shouldn't be [2007/10/01 17:15] pecot Laval: np [2007/10/01 17:15] Korprof Tomorrow: I could see and hear him at the beginning [2007/10/01 17:15] Eloise Pasteur: But, we'll get by :-) [2007/10/01 17:15] Eloise Pasteur: Have you muted Pecot by mistake? [2007/10/01 17:15] Eloise Pasteur: View>Mute List will show you [2007/10/01 17:16] Eloise Pasteur: It's about 10 down, just over the second divider [2007/10/01 17:16] Korprof Tomorrow: I had muted him, I have no idea how [2007/10/01 17:16] DoctorPartridge Allen: Des - do you have a minute after the meeting? [2007/10/01 17:17] Desideria Stockton: yes [2007/10/01 17:17] Eloise Pasteur: If you're in and out of history, it's surprisingly easy [2007/10/01 17:17] DoctorPartridge Allen: kewl [2007/10/01 17:17] Desideria Stockton: only if you bring me those mini grapes from Indiana [2007/10/01 17:17] DoctorPartridge Allen: lol [2007/10/01 17:17] Desideria Stockton: =D [2007/10/01 17:17] DoctorPartridge Allen: virtual mini-grapes [2007/10/01 17:17] Desideria Stockton: yes [2007/10/01 17:18] Eloise Pasteur: Are we done? [2007/10/01 17:18] You: I think so. [2007/10/01 17:18] You: Unless u want to schedule the next meeting [2007/10/01 17:19] Alex Asylum: sure... do you want to do this again next monday? [2007/10/01 17:19] DoctorPartridge Allen: same time [2007/10/01 17:19] You: workd for me [2007/10/01 17:19] You: s [2007/10/01 17:19] Desideria Stockton: this is a really bad time for me, maybe next monday we can do it an hour earlier or an hour later? [2007/10/01 17:19] Korprof Tomorrow: earlier I could do, not later [2007/10/01 17:20] Desideria Stockton: i always have class from 4-5:30 on mondays [2007/10/01 17:20] Alex Asylum: I could do earlier [2007/10/01 17:20] DoctorPartridge Allen: either is fine for me [2007/10/01 17:20] Desideria Stockton: (7-8:30) [2007/10/01 17:20] You: so 15:00 SL on Mon? [2007/10/01 17:21] Desideria Stockton: that is fine with me [2007/10/01 17:21] You: thats 7am for us Korprof. are u OK? [2007/10/01 17:21] Korprof Tomorrow: yes, sounds good [2007/10/01 17:21] DoctorPartridge Allen: k [2007/10/01 17:21] Alex Asylum: good [2007/10/01 17:21] You: OK then. 15:00SL Mon! [2007/10/01 17:22] You: U guys Rock! [2007/10/01 17:22] Eloise Pasteur: Put it on the wiki, set a good example [2007/10/01 17:22] DoctorPartridge Allen: ;) [2007/10/01 17:22] You: now if we could only get our students to do this!!!!! [2007/10/01 17:22] Daliah Carter: you will [2007/10/01 17:23] DoctorPartridge Allen: Eloise - there isn't any way to spawn a mini-browser inworld is there - like the one in profiles? [2007/10/01 17:23] Eloise Pasteur: No [2007/10/01 17:23] DoctorPartridge Allen: didn't think so [2007/10/01 17:23] Eloise Pasteur: Only the one in the browsers [2007/10/01 17:23] DoctorPartridge Allen: shame [2007/10/01 17:23] DoctorPartridge Allen: clearly implemented [2007/10/01 17:23] DoctorPartridge Allen: and supports flash [2007/10/01 17:23] You: HI Chani! [2007/10/01 17:23] Chani Akina: hi [2007/10/01 17:23] Eloise Pasteur: There's a meeting for the SLDEV group tomorrow about the roadmap for an in-world browser, but it won't be in a useful timeframe for this project [2007/10/01 17:24] You: Quebec? [2007/10/01 17:24] Chani Akina: yes [2007/10/01 17:24] pecot Laval: Bonsoir Chani [2007/10/01 17:24] Chani Akina: lol rebonsoir [2007/10/01 17:24] DoctorPartridge Allen: sure -but why not just give us access to the mini that's already included in the interim? [2007/10/01 17:24] DoctorPartridge Allen: i don't need it on prims [2007/10/01 17:25] DoctorPartridge Allen: just like to spawn in window [2007/10/01 17:25] DoctorPartridge Allen: like the profile page [2007/10/01 17:25] Eloise Pasteur: You can set your profile browser to any URL you like [2007/10/01 17:25] DoctorPartridge Allen: y [2007/10/01 17:25] Eloise Pasteur: So I'm not seeing what the extra window is offering? [2007/10/01 17:26] DoctorPartridge Allen: want to spawn a window that isn't profile with browser [2007/10/01 17:26] You: Chani- so how is SL? [2007/10/01 17:26] DoctorPartridge Allen: use case = say i want to show a flash game etc. [2007/10/01 17:26] DoctorPartridge Allen: walk up to arcade machine - click [2007/10/01 17:26] DoctorPartridge Allen: window spawns (small) they play as if in world - ignore the window [2007/10/01 17:26] DoctorPartridge Allen: nice way to augment interface [2007/10/01 17:27] DoctorPartridge Allen: simple [2007/10/01 17:27] DoctorPartridge Allen: don't need 3d for it, but don't want to hurl them off world into msie etc [2007/10/01 17:27] You: Korprof-could u move over here for a picture? [2007/10/01 17:27] DoctorPartridge Allen: imagine forms - data manipulation -all web function easy access [2007/10/01 17:28] Chani Akina: oh sorry elmo i didnt see it [2007/10/01 17:28] Chani Akina: hum im still exploring [2007/10/01 17:28] Eloise Pasteur: You'll just have to be patient Allen [2007/10/01 17:28] DoctorPartridge Allen: lol [2007/10/01 17:28] DoctorPartridge Allen: not in my nature El [2007/10/01 17:28] DoctorPartridge Allen: ;) [2007/10/01 17:29] You: Team 15 and 16 students from Japan are coming soon-Chani [2007/10/01 17:29] Chani Akina: lol yeah! finally [2007/10/01 17:29] You: hopefully u can meet next week [2007/10/01 17:29] Chani Akina: :) [2007/10/01 17:29] pecot Laval: LoL [2007/10/01 17:30] Eloise Pasteur: You're going to be very frustrated then, lol [2007/10/01 17:30] You: but please introduce yourself on the wiki team page [2007/10/01 17:30] Chani Akina: ok [2007/10/01 17:30] Eloise Pasteur: Upgrading Havok has been more or less actively on the table for longer than I've been in SL, that's over 3 years now. It's *finally* nearly here [2007/10/01 17:30] DoctorPartridge Allen: saw that- nice to see [2007/10/01 17:31] You: HAve u beta tested yet? [2007/10/01 17:31] DoctorPartridge Allen: haven't dug into it yet [2007/10/01 17:31] Eloise Pasteur: html on a prim, or variations on that have been around for over 2 years [2007/10/01 17:31] Eloise Pasteur: No, it's on my to do list [2007/10/01 17:31] DoctorPartridge Allen: i beta tested the base but didn't realize havok was in there [2007/10/01 17:31] Eloise Pasteur: I've got a couple of sim killers to go and play with :-) [2007/10/01 17:31] DoctorPartridge Allen: i've used before - anxious to see how deep support goes [2007/10/01 17:31] pecot Laval: what is Havok? [2007/10/01 17:32] DoctorPartridge Allen: physics engine - 7 irish phD's [2007/10/01 17:32] Eloise Pasteur: the physics engine [2007/10/01 17:32] DoctorPartridge Allen: ;) [2007/10/01 17:32] pecot Laval: ic [2007/10/01 17:32] You: it is the underlying structure of movemnet in SL [2007/10/01 17:32] DoctorPartridge Allen: gtg guys - ppl screaming for the computer here [2007/10/01 17:33] DoctorPartridge Allen: des i left you im questions [2007/10/01 17:33] Eloise Pasteur: And particularly collisions [2007/10/01 17:33] Eloise Pasteur: See you Allen [2007/10/01 17:33] You: thx. seeya [2007/10/01 17:33] Alex Asylum: bye [2007/10/01 17:33] DoctorPartridge Allen: bye [2007/10/01 17:33] Daliah Carter: bye [2007/10/01 17:33] Korprof Tomorrow: bye [2007/10/01 17:33] Eloise Pasteur: I ought to think about going too [2007/10/01 17:33] Alex Asylum: gotta go too. kids to put to bed... [2007/10/01 17:33] Korprof Tomorrow: I've got class, see you next Mon [2007/10/01 17:33] Eloise Pasteur: getting uncomfortably late for me [2007/10/01 17:33] You: thz [2007/10/01 17:34] Eloise Pasteur: See you all [2007/10/01 17:34] Daliah Carter: bye elo [2007/10/01 17:34] You: guess the party is over [2007/10/01 17:34] Alex Asylum is Offline [2007/10/01 17:34] pecot Laval: Eloise do u have a min ? [2007/10/01 17:34] pecot Laval: just one :O) [2007/10/01 17:34] Eloise Pasteur: 1 maybe, but not 10 :-) [2007/10/01 17:35] Korprof Tomorrow: elmo, I have a question [2007/10/01 17:35] Korprof Tomorrow is Offline [2007/10/01 17:38] Desideria Stockton: hi there [2007/10/01 17:38] Desideria Stockton: thuis is actrually beth now [2007/10/01 17:38] You: hello [2007/10/01 17:38] Eloise Pasteur: Hi Beth :-) [2007/10/01 17:38] Daliah Carter: hello [2007/10/01 17:39] Desideria Stockton: sorry, i was in my own class [2007/10/01 17:39] Desideria Stockton: lol [2007/10/01 17:43] pecot Laval: i lost audio... [2007/10/01 17:43] pecot Laval: the party went very well tonight... [2007/10/01 17:44] Larry Pixel is Online [2007/10/01 17:46] Desideria Stockton: ok, sorry [2007/10/01 17:46] Desideria Stockton: i had a bunch of ims going there [2007/10/01 17:46] Desideria Stockton: while i was set to busy [2007/10/01 17:46] Desideria Stockton: first thing we need to do for Pierre [2007/10/01 17:47] Desideria Stockton: is make the sidewalks and wall at MoU full perm [2007/10/01 17:47] Desideria Stockton: then we need to get him the instructions for the flag project [2007/10/01 17:47] Eloise Pasteur: Yes, i will look at how to do that [2007/10/01 17:47] Desideria Stockton: are those your perms elo? [2007/10/01 17:48] Eloise Pasteur: I've got to work out how to make it full perms to groups [2007/10/01 17:48] Desideria Stockton: hello chani :-) [2007/10/01 17:48] Chani Akina: hi [2007/10/01 17:48] Desideria Stockton: why don't we do this [2007/10/01 17:48] Desideria Stockton: why don't we have Pierre's students create a new walkway or separator and surroundign wall [2007/10/01 17:49] Desideria Stockton: and when they are ready, we can just reove ours [2007/10/01 17:49] Desideria Stockton: remove [2007/10/01 17:49] Desideria Stockton: will that work? [2007/10/01 17:49] Eloise Pasteur: Yes, sure [2007/10/01 17:49] Desideria Stockton: Pierre, do your students know how to use boundaries? [2007/10/01 17:49] Chani Akina: eee I don't think so :) [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: ok [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: then we should leave them there for now [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: also, my students on Froday are Communication majors [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: they are going to create a poll for the WUE students [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: asking them what kinds of social events they would like to have [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: and good times [2007/10/01 17:50] Chani Akina: pierre, quest-ce quils veulent dire par changer les frontières [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: to host them [2007/10/01 17:50] Desideria Stockton: they will then communicate that information to Daliah [2007/10/01 17:50] Tab Scott is Offline [2007/10/01 17:51] Desideria Stockton: who will help faciliate hosting and such [2007/10/01 17:51] Desideria Stockton: and the students will communicate the needs to Pierre's students [2007/10/01 17:51] Hand Show Chair: To Put your Hand Up - press the fly up (PAGE UP) key. [2007/10/01 17:51] Hand Show Chair: To Put your Hand Down - press the fly down (PAGE DOWN) key. [2007/10/01 17:51] Desideria Stockton: they will then build some kind of social area for students based on their wishes [2007/10/01 17:51] Desideria Stockton: that will be a surprise for the students [2007/10/01 17:51] Desideria Stockton: in WUE [2007/10/01 17:51] Desideria Stockton: does that all sound OK? [2007/10/01 17:52] You: y [2007/10/01 17:52] Desideria Stockton: i have to sort through my space [2007/10/01 17:52] Desideria Stockton: but I think i have an extra plot or two [2007/10/01 17:52] You: ok [2007/10/01 17:54] Desideria Stockton: ok [2007/10/01 17:54] Desideria Stockton: are we all done for tonight? [2007/10/01 17:54] Eloise Pasteur: Think so, yes [2007/10/01 17:54] Desideria Stockton: i have some other things i need to attend to :-) [2007/10/01 17:54] You: There is a social Hour listed for Wed already on the wiki [2007/10/01 17:55] Desideria Stockton: excellent [2007/10/01 17:55] You: we need to input the location [2007/10/01 17:55] You: i think that is Allen? [2007/10/01 17:55] You: hosting [2007/10/01 17:55] Desideria Stockton: he will likely host it on Crimson Island [2007/10/01 17:55] You: i will Host Sat [2007/10/01 17:55] Desideria Stockton: excellent [2007/10/01 17:55] Desideria Stockton: Daliah, I need to go pull some stuff up at Poe [2007/10/01 17:56] Desideria Stockton: thanks dal [2007/10/01 17:56] You: So just let me know the exact location when u know [2007/10/01 17:56] Daliah Carter: Ok you need help? [2007/10/01 17:56] Desideria Stockton: yes, eloise and daliah [2007/10/01 17:56] Desideria Stockton: we have to pull some things up at Poe [2007/10/01 17:56] Eloise Pasteur: ok [2007/10/01 17:56] You: ok [2007/10/01 17:56] Desideria Stockton: and take then to Gothic Brit Lit [2007/10/01 17:56] Desideria Stockton: ok guys thanks :-) [2007/10/01 17:56] Desideria Stockton: see you on the wiki :-)