Teachers+October+8,+2007

[2007/10/08 15:01] Korprof Tomorrow: hi everyone [2007/10/08 15:01] Eloise Pasteur: Hi Korprof [2007/10/08 15:01] You: hi. how is the Sl class going? [2007/10/08 15:01] Eloise Pasteur: Desi sends apologies, family duties [2007/10/08 15:02] You: IC [2007/10/08 15:02] You: ok [2007/10/08 15:02] Korprof Tomorrow: my students are having trouble finding their groups [2007/10/08 15:02] You: yes. That ssems like the biggest problem right now [2007/10/08 15:03] Disconnected from in-world Voice Chat [2007/10/08 15:03] Korprof Tomorrow: hello alex [2007/10/08 15:03] Alex Asylum: hello [2007/10/08 15:04] Alex Asylum: Korprof, I met some of your students on thur [2007/10/08 15:04] Alex Asylum: or was it fri? [2007/10/08 15:04] Korprof Tomorrow: oh good, I'm glad they were actually online [2007/10/08 15:04] Alex Asylum: yes we had a nice chat about american marriage [2007/10/08 15:05] Korprof Tomorrow: many of my grad students are having big technical problems... [2007/10/08 15:05] Korprof Tomorrow: can't seem to get SL to work on their computers [2007/10/08 15:05] You: can the use the univ compo? [2007/10/08 15:05] Alex Asylum: yes one mentioned that. another was working in a lab [2007/10/08 15:05] You: comp labs? [2007/10/08 15:05] Marcius Dowding is Online [2007/10/08 15:05] Korprof Tomorrow: the grad students work all day, and don't have much free time to visit the school [2007/10/08 15:06] Alex Asylum: well this student was in some lab around midnight your time. [2007/10/08 15:06] Korprof Tomorrow: it might have been an undergrad student [2007/10/08 15:06] You: one more optoin is Movable Life [2007/10/08 15:06] Korprof Tomorrow: what's that [2007/10/08 15:07] You: It allows u to use the basic interface without the SL graphics [2007/10/08 15:07] Eloise Pasteur: ajaxlife is nicer IMO, I tried them both over the weekend [2007/10/08 15:07] You: yes, I couldnt get ajax to work for some reason, I wil try again [2007/10/08 15:07] Korprof Tomorrow: OK, I can check them both out...I told them to use the wiki, even if they can't join SL [2007/10/08 15:08] Marcius Dowding is Offline [2007/10/08 15:08] You: ajax and Movable Life can be accessed thru a web browser so it easy--at least they can join IM and chat within SL [2007/10/08 15:09] Alex Asylum: so we seem a little short of faculty today. are we expecting anyone else? [2007/10/08 15:09] You: well Desi is busy.. [2007/10/08 15:10] You: lets just start [2007/10/08 15:10] Alex Asylum: ok... my social hour had three or four students. all from Korea. [2007/10/08 15:10] You: HOw about your students? [2007/10/08 15:10] Korprof Tomorrow: Which social hour was that? [2007/10/08 15:10] Alex Asylum: That was on Friday [2007/10/08 15:11] Alex Asylum: I'm not sure about my students. That's the problem with this online class business. [2007/10/08 15:11] Eloise Pasteur: We're organising another one for the weekend, hopefully late evening Saturday EDT, and Sunday morning at a reasonable time in Japan and Korea [2007/10/08 15:11] Eloise Pasteur: Just me that will be at a hideous hour and our French students [2007/10/08 15:11] You: this weekend? [2007/10/08 15:12] You: Hi daliah [2007/10/08 15:12] Daliah Carter: Hello all [2007/10/08 15:12] Alex Asylum: I haven't really figured out a good time yet but I guess we should be looking at when our students say they are available on the wiki.... Hello Daliah [2007/10/08 15:13] You: my Social hour had about 15-20 [2007/10/08 15:13] You: mostly mine plus about 4 Korean [2007/10/08 15:13] Korprof Tomorrow: I was at Elmo's social...I talked to number of his students [2007/10/08 15:14] You: thx [2007/10/08 15:14] Alex Asylum: do they report meeting any American students yet? [2007/10/08 15:14] You: there was just one from DEsi [2007/10/08 15:14] Korprof Tomorrow: I haven't heard anything about the US students [2007/10/08 15:14] Eloise Pasteur: They're in world now, in their hordes [2007/10/08 15:14] Korprof Tomorrow: I've talked with Canadian, and Japanese [2007/10/08 15:14] Eloise Pasteur: Not right now [2007/10/08 15:15] You: I know Desi students were on vacation [2007/10/08 15:15] Eloise Pasteur: but they've all been in [2007/10/08 15:15] Alex Asylum: my students have all been in, but I don't know what they are doing [2007/10/08 15:15] Eloise Pasteur: One group is on vacation tomorrow, when they'd normally be in SL [2007/10/08 15:15] Korprof Tomorrow: have we altered the build status of WUE Students group? [2007/10/08 15:16] You: the students need to World University Exchange group members to build here [2007/10/08 15:16] You: WUE stidents is for communications only [2007/10/08 15:16] Korprof Tomorrow: have you issued an invite for that group? [2007/10/08 15:16] You: It is open [2007/10/08 15:16] You: just join [2007/10/08 15:16] Korprof Tomorrow: OK, I'll tell them to join...I didn't understand the difference [2007/10/08 15:17] You: Desis Virtual World allows u to build on the other plots [2007/10/08 15:17] You: it is open also [2007/10/08 15:18] You: I think clearly are main challenge is to get the students to decide on meeting times in SL using the wiki [2007/10/08 15:18] You: If they just cant possibly meet in SL together then we need to know this so we can take some action [2007/10/08 15:18] Daliah Carter: Elmo, what prizes did you give out? I don't want to give the same ones if at all possible [2007/10/08 15:19] You: Just my time [2007/10/08 15:19] You: so np [2007/10/08 15:19] Alex Asylum: so I suppose we could reorganize groups to fit people with like times together. [2007/10/08 15:19] You: yes [2007/10/08 15:20] Alex Asylum: hope we don't have to do too much of that tho [2007/10/08 15:20] Korprof Tomorrow: I'll see my students on Wed and Thu...I'll ask how they are doing [2007/10/08 15:20] You: I think we need to check the team wiki pages this week and directly contact those students that are not contributing and that have not stated Sl meeting times [2007/10/08 15:21] Korprof Tomorrow: probably a good idea [2007/10/08 15:21] Alex Asylum: I'm going to schedule SL conferences with all the students in my online course, maybe try to get them to show up in groups. [2007/10/08 15:21] You: Its time to identify the slackers, those with problems, etc and straighten out the groups [2007/10/08 15:21] You: Some students are really into it but are getting frustrated [2007/10/08 15:22] You: I know some of the Korean students are quite active but cant gt together with teammates [2007/10/08 15:22] You: MAny of the team pages are really improving [2007/10/08 15:22] You: some are dead [2007/10/08 15:23] Alex Asylum: sometimes I think it is hard for students to just get started but at this point that can't be an excuse [2007/10/08 15:23] Korprof Tomorrow: right, we really need to get them doing something here at the beginning [2007/10/08 15:24] You: yes. i htink there are a number of htings we can do next time to speed things up [2007/10/08 15:24] You: but for this time we just have to focus on their communications [2007/10/08 15:24] You: nothing can happen until they at least agree on times to meet [2007/10/08 15:24] You: some of them arent even communicated well asynchronously [2007/10/08 15:25] You: no excuse for that [2007/10/08 15:25] You: my students included [2007/10/08 15:25] Alex Asylum: sadly I know my students in my online course tell me that sometimes just forget that they are even in the class... [2007/10/08 15:25] Alex Asylum: not what you want to hear [2007/10/08 15:26] You: no. but we have to deal with what we have [2007/10/08 15:26] You: I`ll leave it you to try to get them engaged somehow [2007/10/08 15:26] Alex Asylum: yep, I'll get on them. [2007/10/08 15:27] Alex Asylum: do we want to try more social hours? sounds like the last one went well. [2007/10/08 15:27] Korprof Tomorrow: I told mine that part of their grade will be how active they are on the wiki [2007/10/08 15:27] You: I think it is a good idea. [2007/10/08 15:27] You: thats good [2007/10/08 15:27] You: me too [2007/10/08 15:27] Korprof Tomorrow: I think the social time is good [2007/10/08 15:27] You: I think having consistent weekly times for socials is good [2007/10/08 15:27] You: so students know they have a place to go [2007/10/08 15:28] Alex Asylum: I'm willing to do the same time on Friday AM [2007/10/08 15:28] Eloise Pasteur: If it's going to be consistent, it's got to be at a time everyone can meet [2007/10/08 15:28] Korprof Tomorrow: right..sounds good [2007/10/08 15:28] You: ok. how about Elo. what time is yours this weekend? [2007/10/08 15:28] Korprof Tomorrow: what time is it for you now, Eloise [2007/10/08 15:28] Eloise Pasteur: for me, it's 2338 [2007/10/08 15:29] Eloise Pasteur: In France, it's 0038 [2007/10/08 15:29] Eloise Pasteur: EDT is, um 1838 [2007/10/08 15:29] Eloise Pasteur: Sorry, 28 [2007/10/08 15:29] Eloise Pasteur: 1828 [2007/10/08 15:29] Deed Davids is Online [2007/10/08 15:29] Alex Asylum: So early morning SL time is probably the best time? [2007/10/08 15:29] Daliah Carter: Here is 6:29 pm [2007/10/08 15:30] Eloise Pasteur: If it's too early morning, you'll lose all the US and Canadian students [2007/10/08 15:30] You: early morn and late evening will catch most students [2007/10/08 15:30] You: from about 6am SL [2007/10/08 15:30] Eloise Pasteur: There was a social last weekend, that was something like 7am for the De Sales students [2007/10/08 15:30] Alex Asylum: If we can make it 9 or 10 eastern time, that's what 10 or 11pm in the pacific and afternoon in france, right? [2007/10/08 15:31] You: mine was at 6am SL, so 9am est and 10pm in JApan [2007/10/08 15:31] Eloise Pasteur: 10 EDT is 4pm in France [2007/10/08 15:31] Korprof Tomorrow: that seems a workable time [2007/10/08 15:31] Eloise Pasteur: and 11pm for you? [2007/10/08 15:32] Korprof Tomorrow: I'm same time as Japan [2007/10/08 15:32] You: I think 6am SLT is a good time -if in the morning SL time [2007/10/08 15:32] Alex Asylum: 6 or 7 AM SL time seems to be about as good as we're going to get for everyone [2007/10/08 15:32] Tab Scott is Offline [2007/10/08 15:33] You: any idea what time Desi team will have the social this weekend? [2007/10/08 15:33] Deed Davids is Offline [2007/10/08 15:33] Eloise Pasteur: 6pm SLT I think [2007/10/08 15:33] You: on SAt? [2007/10/08 15:34] Korprof Tomorrow: daliah, Desi said you were available to help students with clothes, etc [2007/10/08 15:34] Korprof Tomorrow: when are you online and how do they find you? [2007/10/08 15:34] Eloise Pasteur: that's their 9pm, and 10am your morning [2007/10/08 15:34] Daliah Carter: I am on must days [2007/10/08 15:34] Daliah Carter: almost all day [2007/10/08 15:35] Daliah Carter: But I do attend her classes when she has them on sl [2007/10/08 15:35] Daliah Carter: I start with her students [2007/10/08 15:35] Daliah Carter: Is much easier to do them in small groups [2007/10/08 15:35] Daliah Carter: Most do not understand how to wear the clothing [2007/10/08 15:36] You: IF I have a social same time this weekend- 6am Sat, could u come? [2007/10/08 15:36] Daliah Carter: They can search me, and send an IM [2007/10/08 15:36] Korprof Tomorrow: yes, I'll try to show up on Sat [2007/10/08 15:36] Korprof Tomorrow: OK Daliah...I'll tell them to look for you [2007/10/08 15:36] Daliah Carter: Just tell them to state that they are WUE students [2007/10/08 15:37] You: OK. I will have a social the same time on Sat so the students have multiple chances to meet this weekend [2007/10/08 15:37] You: so 6am SL sat [2007/10/08 15:37] Korprof Tomorrow: I'll encourage my students to attend [2007/10/08 15:37] You: then Desi team 6pm [2007/10/08 15:38] Alex Asylum: I will hold one again on Friday at 7am [2007/10/08 15:38] You: ok. lets all post that on the wiki social page [2007/10/08 15:38] Alex Asylum: ok [2007/10/08 15:39] Daliah Carter: Maybe a notice right before the social could draw more students [2007/10/08 15:39] You: sure. everyone can post a notice using the Wue students group [2007/10/08 15:40] You: ok. so lets really take a close look at the wiki team pages and make sure every students has put up meeting times and identify problems clearly [2007/10/08 15:41] You: I also started to put up Links to teacher comment pages for the teams [2007/10/08 15:41] You: I think this will help push them in the right directinos if we all put in comments [2007/10/08 15:41] Alex Asylum: that's a good idea [2007/10/08 15:42] Korprof Tomorrow: OK...sound good [2007/10/08 15:42] You: i started the first couple of teams, but please go ahead and add links and comments to those I dont get to over the next couple of days [2007/10/08 15:42] Daliah Carter: Korprof would it help if I sent to boxes of clothes to give to the students [2007/10/08 15:43] You: sure. that would help mine too [2007/10/08 15:43] Korprof Tomorrow: sure...I think they would like that [2007/10/08 15:43] pecot Laval is Online [2007/10/08 15:43] You: If u could leave interesting stuff on this land that would be great [2007/10/08 15:43] Korprof Tomorrow: try to entice them to explore [2007/10/08 15:43] You: by the way, the social pictures are behind us [2007/10/08 15:43] Alex Asylum: scavenger hunt [2007/10/08 15:44] Daliah Carter gave you NMC gift boxes. [2007/10/08 15:44] Daliah Carter: they are loaded [2007/10/08 15:44] You: thx [2007/10/08 15:44] Daliah Carter: yw [2007/10/08 15:44] Alex Asylum: thx [2007/10/08 15:44] Korprof Tomorrow: thx [2007/10/08 15:44] Daliah Carter: and copy [2007/10/08 15:44] Daliah Carter: So you can give to all the students [2007/10/08 15:44] You: HI pe [2007/10/08 15:45] You: just finishing up the meeting, i`ll post it on the wiki meeting page [2007/10/08 15:45] pecot Laval: Hello Elmo [2007/10/08 15:45] Tab Scott is Online [2007/10/08 15:45] pecot Laval: i M sorry to be late [2007/10/08 15:46] pecot Laval: my fault [2007/10/08 15:46] You: main point is to take a very close look at the team pages and make sure they are communicating the necessary info [2007/10/08 15:46] You: np [2007/10/08 15:46] You: especially the times that they want to meet in SL [2007/10/08 15:46] You: WE still have a very big challenge to get the teams together. [2007/10/08 15:47] You: After we establish solid communications we can really get this exchange started [2007/10/08 15:47] You: Hopefully just one more week [2007/10/08 15:47] You: lets really get this thing going this week [2007/10/08 15:47] Korprof Tomorrow: are we expecting the students to carry out the tasks for this week? [2007/10/08 15:48] You: well... [2007/10/08 15:48] You: if they can [2007/10/08 15:48] You: as for the flag, they just need to make some kind of jpg or bitmap and post it to the wiki [2007/10/08 15:48] pecot Laval: what is your plan to get them going this week ? [2007/10/08 15:48] You: i can import and post them to the flags inworld [2007/10/08 15:49] Alex Asylum: that sounds good [2007/10/08 15:49] You: so I dont want SL technical issues to be a barrier [2007/10/08 15:49] You: we can help them with technical stuff [2007/10/08 15:49] You: for them COMMUNICATION needs to be the focus so there can be an exchange [2007/10/08 15:50] You: Pe- there will be 3 Social hours this weekend to help [2007/10/08 15:50] pecot Laval: ok [2007/10/08 15:50] You: SLT Fri morn, Sat morn, Sat night [2007/10/08 15:51] You: Also we will really take a close look at the students participation and problems [2007/10/08 15:51] pecot Laval: ok you don t know the slt? [2007/10/08 15:51] You: if the students havent put in their contact info and times they want to meet in SL, then we need to talk to them individually [2007/10/08 15:52] You: we will post on the wiki social page [2007/10/08 15:52] pecot Laval: np [2007/10/08 15:52] pecot Laval: I going to work with this aspect this week [2007/10/08 15:52] pecot Laval: in fact that all feel the group profil [2007/10/08 15:52] You: good [2007/10/08 15:53] Korprof Tomorrow: hello sauyer [2007/10/08 15:53] You: This kind of large exchange has never been done before... there will be problems--Let`s solve the problems as best we can [2007/10/08 15:53] Sauyer Flanagan: Hi there [2007/10/08 15:54] Alex Asylum: I think we will learn a lot that at least can help us out next time. though I think we can still have success now. [2007/10/08 15:54] You: yes, i htink so. I think we are actually pretty close to getting the teams communicating well [2007/10/08 15:55] pecot Laval: but we don t necessarely need that they all communicate at the same time [2007/10/08 15:55] You: Just a bit more effort and clarification on our part [2007/10/08 15:55] You: no. thats right. I think as long as at least 2 members from different countries can meet in SL at one time-then we are accomplishing something [2007/10/08 15:55] pecot Laval: we might want to edentify sub-network that are working ... ? [2007/10/08 15:56] pecot Laval: yes [2007/10/08 15:56] You: the sub-groups can then write about the exch on the wiki so everyone ynderstands [2007/10/08 15:56] pecot Laval: yes good idea ... [2007/10/08 15:57] You: lets expalin to the students that any kind of meeting like this is GOOD [2007/10/08 15:57] You: 2 people is fine [2007/10/08 15:57] Alex Asylum: right [2007/10/08 15:57] Korprof Tomorrow: that might help get them started talking [2007/10/08 15:57] pecot Laval: i thing we should focus as possible on those who are networking or try to do it and that might get the others in ... [2007/10/08 15:57] You: yes. OK lets make that clear to them [2007/10/08 15:58] Alex Asylum: a few good examples might be just what we need. [2007/10/08 15:58] You: ANY international meeting of team members is a very good thing [2007/10/08 15:58] pecot Laval: absolutly ... [2007/10/08 15:58] You: maybe that clarification will help get them moving [2007/10/08 15:58] pecot Laval: let try to do it for our next meeting [2007/10/08 15:59] pecot Laval: identify clearly sub-group that are communicating ... [2007/10/08 16:00] pecot Laval: what do you think ? [2007/10/08 16:00] You: yes. thats right [2007/10/08 16:00] Alex Asylum: sounds good [2007/10/08 16:00] Korprof Tomorrow: I agree [2007/10/08 16:01] You: OK. I think we understand what we need to do this week [2007/10/08 16:01] Alex Asylum: should we reschedule this meeting for a different time next week. I know this isn't a good day for Desi [2007/10/08 16:01] pecot Laval: now, on what we should make thoe sub-group focus as communication goal for let say this week or the next two ? [2007/10/08 16:02] You: well, the 10 rules, the flag, team name, and how to make a New Society [2007/10/08 16:03] pecot Laval: ok ... that s clear ... [2007/10/08 16:03] You: Desi recommended this time. I think she just had a family issue today [2007/10/08 16:03] You: right Elo? [2007/10/08 16:03] Eloise Pasteur: If it has to be Monday this is the only time she can really do [2007/10/08 16:04] Eloise Pasteur: I'm not sure if she'd find a different day of the week better though [2007/10/08 16:04] You: Lets stick with this time for now, unless a better day/time is agredd on [2007/10/08 16:04] Alex Asylum: ok [2007/10/08 16:05] pecot Laval: ok for me i ll be on time next week .. [2007/10/08 16:05] You: OK. Lets push forward this week. I feel like we are close to success--hopefully soon [2007/10/08 16:05] Korprof Tomorrow: this is a good time for me too [2007/10/08 16:05] You: see ya at the social hours and next mon. [2007/10/08 16:05] pecot Laval: Eloise i ve a new note card to give u for tomorrow [2007/10/08 16:05] You: gotta go [2007/10/08 16:05] Alex Asylum: bye [2007/10/08 16:05] Korprof Tomorrow: ok [2007/10/08 16:06] Eloise Pasteur: ok [2007/10/08 16:06] Eloise Pasteur: send it on over [2007/10/08 16:06] Korprof Tomorrow: sauyer, I haven't met you [2007/10/08 16:06] Sauyer Flanagan: Hi Korprof - I'm from SUNY Cortland [2007/10/08 16:06] Korprof Tomorrow: are you a student or teacher [2007/10/08 16:06] Sauyer Flanagan: Technology Trainer [2007/10/08 16:07] Korprof Tomorrow: OK, good to have you here [2007/10/08 16:07] Sauyer Flanagan: thanks :) [2007/10/08 16:07] Korprof Tomorrow: we're trying to work out some of the kinks for getting our students to talk together